Saturday, October 17, 2009

Prove Me Wrong

Firstly I would like to say thank you to Babaazee for removing the offensive HH photo from her earlier post and from her blog.

I would also like to point out, that its normal praxis to give a little note as to why some has been changed, removed or given a clarification about the picture.

The result of this is several hundred fans of Babaazee are now under the impression that the EDL are nazi,s because of that photo.

In one of the comment threads we see from some poster

IguanaDonna
I see them fighting British cops, making obscene gestures and running around with burning torches.

Well for the last six hours I have looking at hundreds of photos and videos and not one single photo or video can be found of anybody from EDL running around with burning torches, strange
because if there was it would have been all over the news, especially when the news is out to crucify EDL
So that only leaves one photo

In the photo at the end of my rant you notice they are not running with torches, but petrol bombs, and petrol bombs can cause very serious injury.

The football hooligans do have a very nasty and long history of violence, but as far as I recall, they have never used petrol bombs, where as I can bring forward several hundred photos of red fascists/moslem throwing petrol bombs every where from Athens to Malmo

Before I go any further I would like to say something just to let you know I an not talking out of my arse

I think I may have mentioned it here at ibloga in another post that during the eighties I was living in Copenhagen for a while and was involved with the squatter (BZ,er) movement and Autonoms. It was a crazy time marches against Israel, hashish, protests against South Africa, AFA skinhead bashing, taking part in street battles totally stoned, psycho disco, gasoline bombs and tear gas.

I have taken part in demos and running with the likes of UAF, to know what a UAFukker looks like



AUF WANKERS WITH PETROL BOMBS, POSSIBLY HARROW

PROVE ME WRONG


12 comments:

BabbaZee said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You are welcome.

Am I debunked yet?

I thought you showed your ass to the whole world yesterday ....

BabbaZee has left a new comment on the post "Debunking Babbaazee Part 1":

"Any-way this is from a newspaper that hosts anti-BNP shriek box Melanie philips"
~ Shiva


LOL!!!

I think maybe someone got them a problem with

Uppity Jewish Bitches

Melanie Phillips is a "shriek box" because she is anti BNP?

Game over
Debunk your own ass

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19209018&postID=3354892282379541260&page=1

BabbaZee said...

Truth is nowhere to be found,
and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.

The LORD looked and was displeased
that there was no justice.

He saw that there was no one,
he was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
so his own arm worked salvation for him,
and his own righteousness sustained him.
He put on righteousness as his breastplate,
and the helmet of salvation on his head;
he put on the garments of vengeance
and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak.

According to what they have done,
so will he repay
wrath to his enemies
and retribution to his foes;
he will repay the islands their due.

From the west, men will fear the name of the LORD,
and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory.
For he will come like a pent-up flood
that the breath of the LORD drives along.
"The Redeemer will come to Zion,
to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,"
declares the LORD.
"As for me, this is my covenant with them," says the LORD. "My Spirit, who is on you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouths of your children, or from the mouths of their descendants from this time on and forever," says the LORD.

Isaiah 59


http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Twilight_at_the_Zuq/11192681

BabbaZee said...

BTW?

Even if this picture was also mismarked?

That still leaves 20 photos of people wearing crosses and logo shirts of EDL acting like utter Koranimals.

And ... wearing hoods, burning Nazi flags .... to prove they're not Nazis.

Yea... that'll stop the jihad.

LOLOLOLOL

Funny.

DEBUUUUUNKED!

ITS NOT FASCISM WHEN WHITE PEOPLE DO IT!

BabbaZee said...

Hey Debunkle Sam

How's this?

I took them off too just in case they are "Auf Wankers"

That leaves 20 more photos, and I have more... dozens of quotes... if you actually follow the links and READ.... and a silly jihoody HEEEYYY lookie we burn flags to prove we are not flag burners video.

Along with your mooning the world with your shriek box comment I think my debunking is done here.

Have a lurvely evening

SHABBAT SHALOM

Pastorius said...

Shiva,
If you were involved with such people in the past, why is it that you now hate them?

Why is it that you would now work in league with a bunch of Zionists like us?

What made you change?

(By the way, for the record, I believe everyone at this website is a Zionist, in the sense that we believe Israel has the right to exist as a nation and a Jewish homeland. I am certainly not saying we are all Jews, because I believe there are only three Jewish contributors among us. I don't keep a head count.)

Just Cause said...

Babbazee, I shall be attending the Glasgow demo, I'm white and I have a shaved head (due to baldness) and will probably be wearing a hoody and gloves (logical since it's winter in Scotland and damn cold), if I'm attacked I will defend myself and will probably look very angry, if the police push me about I might get angry but I will not fight them. If someone takes a picture of me at the right time I will look exactly like any one of the people in the 20 or so pictures you have judged and sentenced as being no better than the proponents of Jihad whose religion rationalises, nay, mandates the indiscriminate killing of any unbeliever.

You patronisingly scoff at the presence of people on the street as being uneffective in the fight against the Jihad. All I can say to that is the fight has been brought to us and our leaders and authorities have chosen to capitulate and betray us. The people are now entirely alone and can either make their own fate and resist by physical means if necessary or accept the fate chosen for them. If memory serves correct the latter didn't work out particularly well for those facing Hitler, and in particular the Jews.

BabbaZee said...

same asI told RAR when I attacked Dawkins

I was attacking HIM not her

I am pointing out their behavior
not yours

Anonymous said...

Jaco

Good Question

I was out one night with few friends, and one happened to be Israeli.

Some how the talk got around to the arab/Israeli conflict, some mentioned that the palestinian,s where freedom fighters.

The Israeli, stayed cool, and started to tell us that he was in Lebanon. He was sitting at a security post, many times kids would come to them begging for candies. One day a young girl approached the post. My friend at this point changed the subject, and asked the rest of "have we ever wondered why he never went swimming with the rest of us, he the proceeded to undo his shirt, and drop his pants. The scars on his body where sicken.

The young girl threw a hand grenade killing several Israeli and injured several others.

Since then I started to look at things differently

In the mid Nineties I was seeing a lot of shit in Indonesia and becoming aware of Islam, and it was then that the penny began to drop.

I would be looking for the news on the net. At that time the BBC had some good links, which I followed, coming to some very interesting sites.

So by 2000 I had a good idea of what was going on. Oddly enough I stumbled on BNP,s site a few times but gave them a wide miss, for the same reason many give them a miss today.

9/11 my reaction at the first tower being hit was what a dick of a pilot, on seeing the second plane coming in there was no doubt in my mind AQ and Bin Laden.

Any way, I have a pretty good insight of the anti- fascist as I ran with them, and have first hand knowledge of their mindset.

They have not changed much over the last 20 years except becoming much more organized.

Anonymous said...

The daily mail done some thing rather unusual

They pulled Melanie Philips last article "The BNP are obnoxious"

So even her pay masters have confirmed she has gone over the top.

I could not care if she is jewish or not.

In my reckoning she is british, and I am slagging her be cause she is a media whore.

Example, one of her pay masters is the very anti Israeli BBC who pimp her in their effort smear the BNP

She has no problem with Israel devastating most of Gaza, yet piggy squeals when Brits are beginning to resist islamization.

I can safely say that more people are becoming aware of islam in Britain thanx to the likes of Nick Griffin and BNP, most brits don't even know who Melanie Philips is.

So this blows a big hole in the myth that the BNP are going to damage the anti-jihad cause.

With most articles about Nick and islam with the comments section open, you will find the most common comment "I do not like Griffin but he is rght"

I dont care a fuck what he said 10 years or who he had lunch wit 7 years ago. I care what he is saying to-day.

Just Cause said...

Shiva, I mostly agree with apart from this: "I can safely say that more people are becoming aware of islam in Britain thanx to the likes of Nick Griffin and BNP, most brits don't even know who Melanie Philips is.
"

Whilst the information the BNP are espousing about Islam is spot on I would argue that the majority of people are educating themselves about Islam via more mainstream sources, such as Melanie or Robert Spencer. The main reason being is that in debate if you care to mention that the information was garnered from BNP material it immediately loses credibility. Of course, we all know the best and most controversial source of information is the Quaran and Hadith but invariably what then happens are claims that whatever English language version you've quoted has mistranslated from the original Arabic blah blah blah, we've all been there.

I do however agree that Melanie is a walking contradiction when it comes to the BNP - she wants someone to do something about the threat posed by the Islamofascists, just not the BNP because at one point they were also anti-semitic and possibly still are. So she would rather we all got thrown under the bus for the sake of the 'right' people offering up opposition. The only problem with this position is that the 'right' people who are educated and motivated enough to take to the streets are few and far between. Inevitably some allegiances with undesirables is required if we are going to survive as a culture.

What some people are missing about the EDL is the fact that they are re-igniting the belief in the masses that it's OK to be proud of your culture and in doing so you aren't actually racist or islamophobic contracy to what you've been told for the last 12 years. This in turn is bringing hope which might just be enough to bring us back from the brink.

Anonymous said...

I think that should you ask the average Joe on the street who is Robert Spencer is they would most probably ask who

I am damned sure more people have read BNP,s anti islamic leaflets than those who have stumbled Jihad Watch

As for Philips being a tool for BBC, I can remember the time they matched her with John Lee Barnes, The BBC took three professional debaters against Barnes, a blathering idiot at the best of times, with the purpose of making BNP look like a bunch of knuckle draggers.

Take care at the Demo, and take a scarf and a bottle of water just in case it turns nasty, a wet pali scarf makes a good tear gas mask

Pastorius said...

Shiva,
You said: Some how the talk got around to the arab/Israeli conflict, some mentioned that the palestinian,s where freedom fighters.
The Israeli, stayed cool, and started to tell us that he was in Lebanon. He was sitting at a security post, many times kids would come to them begging for candies. One day a young girl approached the post. My friend at this point changed the subject, and asked the rest of "have we ever wondered why he never went swimming with the rest of us, he the proceeded to undo his shirt, and drop his pants. The scars on his body where sicken.
The young girl threw a hand grenade killing several Israeli and injured several others.
Since then I started to look at things differently ...


I say: I call that a CONVERSION STORY.

You will notice, you will never hear anything of the like come out of the mouths of Nick Griffin or Filip DeWinter.

And, that is because they are not converted.

They still hate Jews, but they hate Muslims more, so they are willing to forego their vengeance upon Jews, to get the Muslims first.

They also hate anyone who is not like them, so in your case, for instance, DeWinter would eventually get around to kicking you out of his country too.

And, your wife is absolutely haram.

I'm sorry to say this, but I feel I must. It is obvious you do not have children, or if you do, you are estranged from them. If you had children (with your Indonesian wife) you would understand why all this is incredibly important. You would understand because you could not bear the thought that your children would not be accepted within your home country.

Among the most racist people in the USA are Korean immigrants. I remember one day I walked into a Korean Liquor Store with my daughter and the woman behind the counter said, upon seeing my beautiful child, "It is not right. She will not know who she is."

I asked the woman what she meant and she said, "It is not right to mix like that ..."

Thank God first generation Koreans are not in control of the US. Thank God all they are running are Liquor Stores and small markets. Pray to God their offspring grow up wiser than they are.

Do you like the idea that Korean people are so racist? If you do not like the idea, you should not like it when it comes from ANYONE.