Wednesday, September 17, 2008

Is Walid Shoebat A Fraud, Or Is Debbie Schlussel Losing Her Mind?



Debbie Schlussel says he is:


By Debbie Schlussel

[TO MY READERS: I originally wrote the column below in February. But I sat on it and didn't publish it because I feel bad about exposing even this fraud and creep, Walid Shoebat, despite the fact that he's plagiarized from me and harassed me under a fake name using his own e-mail address, and despite the fact that his equally shady manager, Keith Davies, fits a similar bill and has--along with Shoebat taken to trashing me.

But now that The Jerusalem Post has also exposed the fraudulence and fakery of Mr. Shoebat, I've decided I cannot remain silent on who he really is and his behavior, any longer. After harassing me, he tried to appear with me at a 9/11 event in Dearborn, and I realized I can no longer hold back. I've thought long and hard about it, but it must be done. The record must be set straight.]

Years ago, when I first heard of Walid Shoebat--the man who claims to have been a Palestinian Islamic terrorist--I liked his story. Since then, I praised him in more than one entry on this site. That was a mistake.

In the back of my mind, I always doubted his story. It's not that I don't believe Muslim terrorists can convert to Christianity and see the error of their ways. I personally know of a scant few who have, indeed, done that. And there are several former Muslims--Ayan Hirsi Ali (never a terrorist) comes to mind--and enlightened Arabs--my friend, Brigitte Gabriel, is one--who are great orators with an important message so many more need to hear.

It's that I simply didn't find Shoebat credible. And his behavior toward me is that of an unstable, insecure man who is upset that his shaky claims are being doubted. It's a case of trusting my instincts, and my instincts told me this man oozing arrogance, bravado, swagger, and not much else was a fraud--that this was a business for him, showmanship. And he never provided a shred of proof that he did what he said he did in his former life.

Still, I kept my doubts to myself, lest I be accused of enabling the Islamists, and because I had no beef with his message, a good one. My inclination was to ignore him and not waste my time or effort on this man. Sadly, though, that's not the way he sees things. For some reason, Walid Shoebat won't stop harassing me, despite my requests. He's annoying me and wasting my time. And he won't go away. So I can no longer look the other way.

Mr. Shoebat took it upon himself--despite my praise of him on this site--to engage in a pattern of behavior that spanned plagiarism and obscene verbal abuse to the non-stop barrage of harassing messages he sent me over the last two days under a fake name, "Sandra Medina." That's what I get for being nice and charitable to a snake. I got bitten.

All along, I figured the e-mails I got yesterday were coming from Shoebat or one of his blind believers. And, sadly, I was right. It's those instincts--when you trust them, you are right; When you don't, you regret it.

Shoebat made the mistake of e-mailing me using an e-mail he and his son had used to e-mail me before with their real names. While some real terrorists are stupid and inept (like Richard Reid, "The Shoe Bomber), most aren't--not that stupid.


Go read the whole thing.

I'm running close on time now that I'm back to work and haven't yet read all of Schlussel's article.

AOW note: Some time back, Mr. Shoebat wrote this. I have no idea if it answers the points in Schlussel's article.


56 comments:

Epaminondas said...

What a mess.

She claims Steve Emerson is a fraud well.

Hannity, Aaron Klein ...maybe there is no jihad either ;)

Don't know what to think.
Yet

Anonymous said...

This news is disappointing to the extreme. I can't help but wonder why - WHY??!! would Walid Shoebat risk not only his reputation but those that he travelled with - for such petty self validation?

Since Debbie chose to take this public, I can't see how Shoebat can redeem himself without addressing this publicly. I'm also furious that she mentioned Steven Emerson in the same vein without explaining herself.

Her post was unexpected and IMHO his petty vanity & immature nuisance did not warrant public airing.

Anonymous said...

I am going to hold off on whether or not I believe her characterization of him as a Fraud for she has not presented evidence to that light.

Even if she is being 100% honest (I don't doubt it) all she has demonstrated in this post is that she & Shoebat have had a "clash of Egos".

So OK, he may be arrogant, rude and nuisance -- who among us hasn't been (sometimes rightly) labelled as such? He may be an egoist - not surprising for a man who has been as well recieved as he (goes to the head)... BUT FRAUD?

That remains to be seen... Hopefully Shoebat answers to the charges.

WC said...

Shoebat is scheduled to appear on the Voices of Freedom radio show on 9/25, 8PM PST on KFNX 1100. It is streamed on their site.

http://www.1100kfnx.com/

This topic will mostly certainly be covered.

WC

Pastorius said...

I talked to Shoebat's publicist, and I'm pretty sure it was Keith Davies.

I am in agreement with Schlussel's assessment of that guy, if it was the same guy.

I remember thinking to myself, "Damn, what a scammer Shoebat picked to be his manager."

As for the concern about Schlussel calling out Emerson, hannity, Klein, etc.

I'm with you. There's something strange going on here.

Schlussel has always impressed me as a particularly manic and paranoid individual.

So maybe she's losing her mind.

Thing is, I also agree with her assessment of Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity has been a constant supporter of Trent Lott, even supporting his stupid comment about Strom Thurmond (basically saying "he didn't mean it" which is a stupid line of defense, in my opinion).

Sean Hannity, Joseph Farah, Diana West, Pamela Geller, Christine Brim, Trent Lott, Walid Shoebat, etc.

One does have to wonder if there is something really sick about the counter-Jihad.

Makes it even more clear that people like Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald are true shining lights.

Truth is, the avant garde of any movement is always filled with nuts.

But, it is hard to bear. Sometimes I think about quitting this whole damned thing because I am so disgusted by those I see around me (present company excepted, I like the people here).

But, the problem is, I really believe in what we are doing and if people like us quit, then the movement is ceded to the Pamela Geller's and Diana West's of the world.

Pastorius said...

WC,
Can't wait to hear it.

Pastorius said...

Wingless,

Good point.

Pastorius said...

I changed the name of the post from

Is Walid Shoebat a Fraud?

to

Is Walid Shoebat a Fraud, or Is Debbie Schlussel Losing Her Mind?

Anonymous said...

OK, Didn't realize there was another part to the article, I read the JPost article and now I'm now longer as reluctant to believe her... Still not 100% convinced, but now that I've seen the evidence I'm closer to convinced than not (whatever that means :-)...

Still not sure about Shoebat but this Mr. Saleem sounds as credible as the "Grand Wazir" he descended from...

Epaminondas said...

Pasto, I am right with you in terms of feeling like, WTF right now.

Hannity I knew had grabbed her stuff without credit, and I knew what she had claimed about Klein, but all I really know about him is his book, which was great. But then you wonder if you've read a novel.

EMERSON?

Agree that Schlussel always seemed a little tightly wound, but this, really ...

What next?

Pastorius said...

What next? John Bolton is a pedophile?

Disclaimer: The above statement is intended to be humorous and does not reflect the truth of my opinion about any person living or dead, especially not John Bolton.

Citizen Warrior said...

WC - I can't wait to hear how answers your questions.

Epaminondas said...

WC, what's the over under on a cancel, or call precluding questions about this?

WC said...

EPA - With this much interest and the short amount of actual air time we have with Shoebat, Always and I will have to efficiently manage call-ins.

We may come up with this idea.

Have exact questions sent to VOF email address and read them to Shoebat when on the show.

I have to check with Always on this. But if that's the process, we will post a blog here at IBA and ask for questions.

WC

Always On Watch said...

I'm running close on time now that I'm back to work and haven't yet read all of Schlussel's article.

However, some time back, Mr. Shoebat wrote this. I have no idea if it answers the points in Schlussel's article.

Certainly before the KFNX show in a little over one week, I'll do my research.

Anonymous said...

Andy: "sticking to one's religion (if one must) but simply renouncing terrorism."

nuh uh. Read the koran and begin to explore it's relation to the sunna and hadith. Under no circumstances can this be sticking to religion and renouncing terrorism. It is the foundation of terrorism.

There can be no islam without the use of force. Islam will shrivel and die a rapid and painfully humiliating death without violence.

There are no unicorns in Islam. GIVE IT UP.

Andy Armitage said...

I take Anonymous's point above (although I do wish people would not comment anonymously). I was just playing devil's advocate, trying to see the good in people. Sometimes it's hard.

Pastorius said...

I studied Religion in college. I love Religions. However, even in college (when I was a brainwashed lefty) I could find little to like about Islam.

Hinduism has some problems, but overall it is a great religion. Buddhism? Great. Chrianity? Great. Judaism? Great.

Hell, I can even find stuff I like about Animism and Paganism.

But, Islam? A religion which tells us that people ought to be killed for being gay, or choosing to leave the religion? A religion which enforces the idea that Infidels and women are second-class citizens? A religion which suppresses free speech the world over? No, there isn't much to admire about that.

Citizen Warrior said...

Well said, Pastorius!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have reactions of Walid or his manager?

These allegations seem too unbelievable.

On the other hand it seems like there are inconsistencies about Shoebat.
Is his name real or an assumed one?
Is there evidence for him throwing a bomb onto a bank in Jerusalem?
What about this topexecutive greeting company that appears when clicking on donate but itself has a blank page?
Is the Shoebat Foundation registered?

If someone has answers I'll be glad to know them.

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
Fellow IBA writer, Always on Watch, will be interviewing Walid Shoebat on her radio show on October 9th.

Come to our site on the morning of October 9th for details, and then you can listen to the interview which will take place in the evening.

Anonymous said...

Debbie Schlussel is probably manic depressive and bipolar. She accuses everyone of palgiarizing "her work." In cases where she was given complete attribution she still accuses people of palgiarism. She has accused to date Steve Emerson, Aaron Klein, Doug Hagmann, Walid Shoebat, Jeff Jacoby, Sean Hannity, and many othr fine reporters and journalists of plagiarism that did not occur and called them frauds. She reminds me of McCarthy at the Army McCarthy hearings. But clearly this woman is not all there. She is appearing fewer places other than her own blog because of her mental illness and paranoia. Even Neil Cavuto said on Fox "I don't believe you" during an interview on international news about one of her investigations. You don't see her on Fox any more. Lately, she does more to help the jihadi forces than the Muslims could ever do themselves. If anyone cares to sue Ms. Schlussel, be sure to request a psychological evaluation of her that will show she is mentally ill. The jihadi threat is real, we don't need this fruticake to help the enemy.She thinks men are all after her also because of her great beauty. I know Walid Shoebat is genuine because the FBI and US Military use him for information, not some blonde bimbo who runs a vanity blog and gets jealous if another reporter comes up with a similar or better story.
She's a wannabe investigative journalist and clearly does not oeprate with a full deck. Steve Emerson is no fraud and neither are her other victims.

Citizen Warrior said...

THANK YOU Anonymous!

Anonymous said...

The thing is "Anonymous" above sounds just like Walid Shoebat, the fraud. The fact is no-one in the FBI or the military consults Walid Shoebat. As someone who works in counterterrorism, we all know what a joke Walid Shoebat is. Schlussel is on the money on this. And, frankly, Aaron Klein is known by Israeli intelligence to make a good deal of things up, and the rest he copies from Isreali newspapers. As for Steve Emerson, the guy is known in counterterrorism circles as a headcase with no real inside info since before 9/11. And at that point the info came from Rita Katz, who left him after one of his insane attacks. When Rita left, the feds who consulted, left with her. Schlussel knows what she's talking about here. She's the real deal. Incredible that you'd take the word of a man who claims he was an Islamic terrorist over her. But like someone once said, never underestimate the intelligence of the American people. Clearly you guys are a good representative sample. And pretty clueless about who is the real deal and who isn't in the counterterrorism world. Neil Cavuto? Hilarious.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Jacoby was not acccused by Schlussel of plagiarism, but by his own newspaper, The Boston Globe, which suspended him for six months for it.

As for Emerson, she tells how even CAIR is more transparent than Emerson:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/10/yes_im_now_part.html

Citizen Warrior said...

Anonymous, how do you know these things?

Citizen Warrior said...

Anonymous, you seem like a Schlussel apologist, or maybe you ARE Schlussel. You said a lot of things with only one link to a very minor point you made.

You recommended no books, articles, nothing to back up what you're saying. How can anything you just said be validated?

Anonymous said...

Citizen Warrior: You must be Walid or his sleazy, shady manager. No-one needs to recommend any books. The fact is that Shoebat is a discredited fraud and a liar. Wake up, or if you're Walid (and it sounds like you are), quit your act. We see through you like cellophane.

Pastorius said...

Heh.

Citizen Warrior is NOT Walid Shoebat.

Who are you? What side of this issue are you on?

Citizen Warrior said...

It's true, Anonymous, I am not Walid. But you haven't answered the question. If you are so sure Walid is a fake, then you must have some pretty solid evidence to present. You must have some articles, at the very least, you can point to. So give it your best shot. Prove your points. Even the best rant proves nothing at all.

Anonymous said...

It isn't for me to prove that Walid isn't what he hasn't proved he is and that his disproven story is true. There was never a bombing he claims he perpetrated. He harrassed Schlussel under a fake name. It's Shoebat's job to prove he says he is what he says, and so far he hasn't provided a shred of evidence, though plenty of others, incl. the JPost and Schlussel, have disproven what he's claimed.

Debbie said...

The woman has now added Brigitte Gabriel to her "fraud" list. I think Schlussel needs to quit blogging and go garden or something. She's clearly devolved into a state of paranoia that she may not ever come back from. She used to be on Howard Stern a lot - I think now she can officially join the Whack Pack. She makes Daniel Carver look sane.

Pastorius said...

I stopped linking to Schlussel awhile back, because she seems to have gone insane.

REAPER said...

Of corse..she is insane..shoebat is not a fraud person...but i doubt he is an ex-terrorist...but he has converted to christianity..think of that guys..no muslims would do that..i saw an video of his telling that islam is from satan..i feel that is true

Anonymous said...

It's funny. Shoebat has been shown to be a fraud and can't prove his story. Then, he stalks Schlussel incessantly despite her requesting several times that he cease contact, but she's the "insane" one? Only if you're an idiot. There is something not all there about this guy. Schlussel pointed out that there is no "Brigitte Gabriel." It's a fake name used by Hanan Tudor, most of whose story is a lie. Tudor raised money for an organization that defended Muslim death threats on Debbie's life. I can't blame her for exposing the woman. You have to give her credit for not falling for every Arab charlatan seeking to make money on 9/11. Where were these two (Shoebat and Hanan "Brigitte" Tudor) b/f 9/11 when they didn't smell money? After 9/11, they toured together for a while. Smell of money.

Anonymous said...

"The FBI and the military use Walid Shoebat for information"? Information on what: how to stalk Debbie Schlussel and get caught? That's far funnier than a Jay Leno monologue. It looks like he spends most of his time stalking Debbie Schlussel and looking for new ways to establish that he was a terrorist in a bank bombing that never happened. His speaking engagements have basically fallen off completely once he was exposed by both the Jerusalem Post and Schlussel. The guy's nuts. He's the one who needs the psychological profile, posing as a woman to stalk women. I wonder if his wife knows about this.

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
If there is no Brigitte Gabriel, then who is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY

I don't understand your point.

Perhaps, you could clarify.

deadbambi said...

The last two "anonymous" posts were obviously Debbie Schlussel. How evil of someone to out the real name of someone who has a fatwa on their head. I know the other side of the story regarding Anonymous Schlussel's claim that Brigitte raised money for an organization "that threatened Schlussel's life." It's an unbelievably ridiculous claim and it's something like Brigitte accepted money from one person who used to work for said organization and even the "threat" was a far reach. It's pathetic. Sadly, Schlussel has some good points, yet it's peppered by her insane points and renders all her points unbeliveable. Pastorius - do you collect IP addresses? I'm sending this shit to Brigitte and I hope like hell she files a slander suit against Schlussel.

Pastorius said...

deadbambi,
You asked: Pastorius - do you collect IP addresses?


I say: No.

Isn't the name Hanan Tudor a name for a man? I assumed that was a male name and that it could not be the real name for Brigitte Gabriel.

One of my best friends is a Lebanese Christian, and he confirms everything Gabriel says. Not only that, to this day, he is afraid to speak out publicly on this subject, and he thinks I am insane to do so.

Ordinary people have no idea how no idea about the fear instilled into people who have lived in Muslim areas of the world.

deadbambi said...

Thanks, Pastorius for the response about IP addresses.

Well, there's only one thing left to do...Anonymous, my name is Debbie (not Schlussel) and I live in Charleston, South Carolina. Who the fuck are you?

deadbambi said...

I almost forgot, I like warm Summer nights and walks on the beach.

Pastorius said...

Deadbambi/Debbie,
What's your sign?

;-)

Anonymous said...

Wow, deadbambi, your name should really be "deadbrain," b/c you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Hanan is a woman's name. You're clueless. For those who have a brain, try google, and you'll see it's an Arabic WOMAN'S name, not a man's like deadbrain claims. And I'm not debbie Schlussel. I do know a lot about the laughable fakes Walid Shoebat and Hanan Tudor, the real name of a phony who goes by the porn name "Brigitte Gabriel." You are obviously one of her gushing, blind employees, since this sounds exactly like what the coward Hanan told them to say. In fact, Hanan Tudor raised money for an organization that praised and endorsed Muslim death, rape, and torture threats on debbie and her family, and then she has the nerve to claim she wants to be safe from fatwas. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Anonymous said...

deadbrainbambi, the coward Hanan Tudor would never file a slander suit against those who expose her for the fraud she is b/c it's all true--that she's a fake--and her story isn't true. But I hope you are collecting a big check from her to defend her online. Someone's gotta continue to spread the lies for her, now that she's been caught in so many lies. Her whole bio is a lie.

deadbambi said...

Anonymous -

Actually - it was Pastorius who thought Hanan was a male name, not me.

Which organization would that be that endorses Muslim death, rape and torture threats against Debbie and her family?

And if her story is fake, what's the true story? The burden of proof is on you, Sweet Nony.

And I told you who I was so I ask again, who the fuck are you? :)

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,

Please do me a favor and provide links that show that Brigitte Gabriel is a fraud.

I would love to break that story, were it true?

Unknown said...

The Anonymous who is standing up for Schlussel, IS SCHLUSSEL. She is lying when she claims to be a member of any counter terrorism task force. I've had exchanges with her on facebook. At the time I had both her and Pamela Gellar on my list. I sent them both something about Moslems in Michigan schools, and Schlussel came back with all sorts of accusations about Gellar (not to mention pompous outrage about my use of "dearbornistan". No joke: she angrily told me that SHE came up with the term dearbornistan and people steal it from her! LOL). The writing style is the EXACT SAME. Especially "Wake Up". She said that to me 2-3 times. Schlussel said this:

"It isn't for me to prove that Walid isn't what he hasn't proved he is..."

almost verbatim in a piece about email exchanges between her and Shoebat.

"It is not my task to prove that he isn’t something he never proved that he was."

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4245/enough-walid-shoebat-why-is-sean-hannitys-fake-terrorist-harassing-me/

Maybe this commenter isn't Schlussel. If so, I wonder if she'll post a column about him/her plagiarizing her work.

It's hilarious to me that Debbie Schlussel is doing the exact same thing she accused Walid Shoebat of doing, impostering as another person in order to sling dirt around.

I think Schlussel is a megalomaniac. She can't stand there to be anyone else in the spotlight. She wants to be the leader of the Counter-Jihad movement, and if the rest don't get behind her, they are frauds and kooks. How could they not be, for refusing to worship at he feet?

Just cuz Shoebat's a joke doesn't mean Schlussel ain't

Doug said...

Shoebat may or may not be a fraud and a liar, but he did us the great favor of outing the 9-11 Victory Mosque man with his
Translations from Arabic:

“I Do Not Believe In Religious Dialogue”

HIS PLANS FOR THE MOSQUE

“NO RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE”

To the Cairo University on Rights For All an article titled “The Most Prominent Imam in New York “I Do Not Believe In Religious Dialogue”

He also admitted that “[In the West] they have separation of church and state, this of course does not exist in any Muslim country. About 99% refuse to separate religion from state and many call for establishing an Islamic Caliphate.”


CONCLUSION

This should alarm the ardent skeptic on the mindset of the Islamic visionary who advocates establishing Islamic lobbies throughout the West.

Abdul Rauf uses stealth strategies that make it difficult to detect their Shariah driven agenda and while under the guise of interfaith dialogue and building bridges in what they say in English.
In Arabic the statements are clear—the bridge is to build Shariah.

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COMPLETE TRANSCRIPTS

What Imam Of Ground Zero Mosque Says

Translated Verbatim from the Arabic

(by Walid Shoebat)

Doug said...

9/11 MOSQUE IMAM BOASTS:

'Obama's historic speech in Egypt came from me'

In previous reports researched by the Walid Shoebat Foundation, it was revealed that Imam Rauf has made statements in the Arabic language - while appearing on Arabic media outlets - that completely contradict his moderate tone when speaking english, exposing him as a direct supporter of terrorism, both financially and verbally.

NOW THIS!
So who really was speaking on that historic day of June 4th 2009 in Egypt? President Obama or the Imam of the proposed Ground Zero Mosque, Feisal Abdul Rauf?

The Shoebat Foundation has obtained a shocking audio recording of Rauf's own voice boasting in Arabic that Obama’s historic speech in Cairo was provided by the Imam's work with the Cordova Initiative in what the Imam called “The Blue Print” which, according to him, was the solution to the Islamic-American divide. Rauf claimed that Chapter 6 of the Imam’s work engineered by the Cordova Initiative was the construct for the entire speech:

“This is an example of the impact of our work in a positive way to be used by the president.”

"The blue print," Rauf elaborated, included everything from U.S. policy to Jewish and Christian relations with Muslims.

For an Imam in New York to be involved in the orchestrating U.S. foreign policy is quite the claim. In the recording dated February 5th, 2010 Rauf boasted that:

“We have to look at it [as] how to engineer solutions. At the Cordova Initiative we think of ourselves as an engineering shop. Yes. We have an analytical approach. Our work has been that.

IN THE BOOK CHAPTER 6, I WROTE ABOUT THIS BLUE PRINT as to WHAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, what has to be done by the Jewish community, what has to be done by the Christian community, what has to be done by the Muslim community, what has to be done by educators, what has to be done by the media.

For example, IN MY BOOK IN THE ARABIC VERSION page 293, what did I write? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO DO. IF YOU EXAMINE THIS CHAPTER YOU WILL FIND THAT THE OBAMA SPEECH IN CAIRO WAS ALL TAKEN FROM THIS SECTION [Section 6].

---

His suggestion to Muslims on how to deal with western Christians and Jews was:

“deal with them as one courts a pretty girl he wants to date; stop thinking like a typical Muslim. Then you can engage.”

He also discussed how he courted Bloomberg and the Jewish Community boards that “we have inroads with the Jewish Community Center”.


“people need to use peaceful means to advise the governors and government institutions…we also suggest to the governors and political institutions to CONSULT [MUSLIM] RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND [MUSLIM] PERSONALITIES IN THE FIELD SO AS TO ASSURE THEIR DECISION MAKING TO REFLECT THE SPIRIT OF SHARIAH.”

Anonymous said...

Gosh - it's been so long. How is everyone? Deadbambi here.

Anonymous Schlussel, how the hell are you? I hope you've been well and you've sought the help you so desperately need. So, who's on your list for 2010?

Pastorius, I forgot to answer you last year. Aries :)

Anonymous said...

TO ALL WHO SLANDER WALID SHOEBAT

For many years I have had my terror activity questioned, my imprisonment in the Masqubiyeh (with notorious bombmaker Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi, who recruited me to bomb an Israeli bank) denied. Everyone is pulling charges from New York Times reporter Chris Hedges and from Holocaust-denial supporter Jorg Luyken, writing for the Jerusalem Post, who has claimed that my story cannot be corroborated.

Further, I know many are dishonest about performing due-diligence since it takes months to dig out the old records proving my past.

I did such due-diligence, now go ahead, refute this:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/son-of-hamas-attacks-my-veracity/2/

Shlomo Ben Hungstien said...

CAIR ( counsel for American islamification and repression ) & and their friends at hamas would like to thank CNN for all their hard work on this story, allah ackbar! takbir! allah ackbar!!!

Anonymous said...

THe CNN report was bullshit. The reporter ginned it up for CAIR, the Hamas front. For the facts read this:

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5067

Anonymous said...

I was the deadbambi commenter and I have to say, after Walid's attack on Mosab Hasan Yousef and Mosab's response (along with his Shin Bet handler), and this CNN report, and Walid's wholly inadequate response (along with putting up links to UN documents that he cites will back him up and unfortunately, they don't even come close to backing him up) on his website, he's not looking too good in my eyes credibility-wise. Plus, they refuse to address the board member discrepancy. He may have been a PLO kinda guy way back when, but it seems to me that he may have hyped up his level of involvement to make the story more exciting.

Anonymous said...

Davies is definitely a fraud and abusive.

Mickey said...

I donated to rescuechristians.com for a few months thinking these guys were legit. Even went on a conference call where Walid and his son were speaking. His son was pretty short tempered and he Walid said there's no need to say anything bad about Trump as soon as i came on the call. He must have sensed i was the one writing to him against Islam and Trump. The call itself happened after i pestered them about when is the call (in exchange for considerable money donated to rescuechristians.com) etc. All they spoke about on the call was erdogan, killings in mexico and such things. Nothing about pakistan, saudi arabia, uae and the terrorism they sponsor or egypt for that matter. When i said i had faced problems with muslims, hindus, and buddhists they tried to shush me on the call. There was a woman who spoke before me even though it was my turn.

Then I spoke to Keith Davies months later who on the conference call asked me to call him later about my issues. He was terribly angry throughout most of the call. He was acting like the issues i faced with muslims in uae wasnt such a big deal. Is that all he asked. He seemed very pissed off in general and with me too. I said i'll call you back and didnt call him after that and stopped donating to them. When i told him Jews were even more persecuted than christians in the middle east he got angry even though he is a Jew. Why do these conservatives worship an islamophile like Trump and act like only christians need rescuing from muslim countries. Is it because muslims only spare christians and have already expelled or killed the Jews and humanists/atheists (as such a rarity on developing countries which are mostly very religious). Dont those lives matter. But shoebats/Davies only care about christians. His son junior shoebat said that the French people who were killed in fall of 2015 during a concert deserved it because they were listening to "satanic" music. Once a muslim, always a muslim. Conservatives = muslims.

Conservatives really suck and they not only ally with muslims but have the monopoly on islamophobia or faking islamophobia to look cool.

Thats what happened now you decide if he's a fraud. I'd say yes even though there is was truth to very little of what they reported prior to Trump but theres a heavy conservative/Christian bias and anti liberal slant to most of it. Only christian lives matter to them and theyre about as conservative as a muslim. So is Trump and his base. But they have the nerve to act islamophobic even though theyre so similar to muslims.

I had bad experience with Trump and Pam Geller too. Prudes just like the muslims.